"Popular kids didn’t really have friends. They had alliances. You were safe only as long as you hid your trust. At any moment someone might make you the laughing stock, because then they knew no one was laughing at them."
Do you think this is how the socially elite view themselves? Are their lives devoid of any real friendships?
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ReplyDeleteI think that popular kids dfinatly do have real friends but they also do have alliances. I think that it is fine to have both and I think they are normally well balanced for popular people and everyone else.
ReplyDelete-Evan
I think as a kid that this is not true but gossip is a main subject in kids lives and i have friends, and we torment each other but its like your siblings sometimes you wanna curb stomp them, but you would curb stomp for them because you are close.
ReplyDeleteJAKE HOWARD
I think me as a kid does have friends. Only jerks use personl information about other people. I think if some one does give away personal information you have permeision to punch them in there dome piece. Tim r
ReplyDeleteI think the socially elite veiw them-selves as the main charater. They think that they can have total control over someones' life and make a complete fool of you. To me it seems that their lives is ful of friendships if they have followers following them where ever they go. Honestly I can't stand people like that. It makes me sick seeing someone getting picked on. If a student goes to far they could make only another cry and feel bad about themselves. Or even worst suicide.
ReplyDelete:) Angel A Bratten
I beleve that the boys in our school are to tightly knit. With the kids that i hang out with at school i have hung out with once. This has been because I envited THEM to MY beach house. As far as the girls go t find them to be eather to give hallow complement wored so that you don't know if tair serous or being evil. The outher type are minipulitve buttheads whoi feel that they can say anything just because you are a guy even thow you could brak them over your knee. The reason that they think this is because its wore to get in a fist fight with a girl than a guy as far as our school handbook and in the eyes of our peers.
ReplyDeleteI think that popular kids just try to hide their true selves and do everything they can to keep others from finding out about their true selves. They are afriad that their true selves may be uncool or unacceptable so they hide it behind others and use them as a sheild through the battlefeild of life. They are somtimes like bullies themselves making fun of others to hide themselves. But then their are the other people who are popular and truely nice people. They do not try to hide themselves and are not bullys they are true and accepting that is why people think they are cool and popular. Those people are going to be great one day and will lead us to new depths into the futer.
ReplyDeletebryan regn
Most if not all of the guys are nice in our school
ReplyDeleteWith what I just read right now, connects to my everyday life, and what I see in the hall ways. School society is divided into three separate groups. High, middle, bottom. I recall these divisions, as a triangle that's divided into three unequal parts. The highest spot, is where everyone can dream of. The middle is where your not popular, but your noticed. The lowest is where your not popular at all, and no one knows about you, just the people you are friends with. Now, let me put my opinion on these "cool" kids. Some of these popular students, are good students, active in their community, and well liked around everyone. Then there's the B.A. students(bad A_ _), these are from what I seen the trouble making popular kids. I'd say 70% of bullying is from those B.A. students. I've been bullied by them myself. I remember Mr. G said in a lesson a few classes back, that Studies show that students who are on top of the school food chain sometimes bully people for delight, to make them own selves satisfied. Alright, I agree with that, but what about from what they go through? What I mean is, these popular kids, might be abused at home, or are probably jealous of what you have, their ashamed knowing that their different, and that going to school everyday. On my opinion I believe that's the number 1 reason why this happens. To backup on what I said, this has happened to me before. I've been bullied, by these "B.A." kids. I looked at on what they have to go to everyday. I noticed where they live and what they have. Then I looked at on what I have. Guess what? I have better things to go through unlike them. Jealousy is one of the reasons these people do such a thing. They view themselves as nothing happens when they hurt someone. Sure, words don't hurt someone physically, but they affect someone mentally. I remember a teacher, who told me what he went to in middle school. A kid called him "dumbo", because he was recognized as fat, and clumsy, and almost every week of his middle school career he went through that. As that teacher told me on what happened in his past, he was crying. Words that are said to you stick with you. Now everyday I look up to that teacher, by what he said to me, it made me feel sympathetic, for him. I will never forget that. All in all popularity may be for some people, but a horrendous individual for some. This is my optimistic view.
ReplyDelete-Normando Bustamante
Also from my post that I just put, I forgot to mention that the name of the blog we are viewing matches well on this topic.
ReplyDeleteCrispy; The Popular.
Pork; The Middle.
Rinds; Everyone else.
-Normando Bustamante
To me, there are two types of socially elite classes. The ones who just live their lives day to day, and the others which live to stay popular and would turn on their friends to avoid being the laughing stock. The first group would have numerous friends. However the second group would think they have friends when they really have no one. Inside though, I think they know they are alone, but would never admit it, just to keep their popular image.
ReplyDeleteRachel Jankowski
I believe that popular people don't grow up with many friends and I can't wait for our 15th year reunion to see how people have changed
ReplyDeleteDan Rule
When someone looks at the "popular" crowd the first thought that probably comes to that person's mind is something along the lines of stuck-up jerk. However, the "popular" group themselves probably don't see it that way at all. To them, their self-image is just them living their lives the way they are and considering themselves just lucky that they are in a valuable social position. On the downside, they aren't so lucky in the friendship department. They are fortunate if they have at least 1 person to call their true friend. A true friend is someone that will have your back no matter what, stand by you through thick and thin, and keep you in line. They are not somebody who will be your friend for a week and then one little disagreement between the two of you causes one person to stab the other in the back, tell secrets of theirs, etc. Those types of people are what the "popular" group has and considers friends.
ReplyDelete-Casey B.
I do think that some socially elite may think of themselves this way, especially the people that feel insecure about themselves. I think that most of the people that are popular think of themselves as "higher" ranked than other people. Members of the "socially elite" probably don't have really good, strong, relationships with anyone.I feel that these people don't actually have friends; they have pets. The populars have people that just follow them around and act like that person is the most important person in the world. I guess it makes the popular person feel like they are important to have people follow their shadows around.
ReplyDelete-Faith Piotrowski
Yes, the super popular kids do that because lets face they're only popular when they are making fun of kids who are not as high ranked as him or her. In the book "Staying Fat For Sarah Brynes" Dale Thorton knew he was as dumb as a nail, but he knew he could stay popular as long as he made fun of Eric Calhoune and Sarah Brynes because they were lower class and he could get away with it. No, these people don't have real friendships because either they have alliances, like Mr. G said, or people hang around him or her trying to be popular.For example sometimes a kid will get popular, but he fears that his reign of being popular will end very soon. So what he or she does is reaches out to other kids of his status. So just by doing that he basicly has a system to keep his reign of popularity going. And sthe system grows bigger and bigger and bigger until they have basicly formed a gang. However sometimes a person gets extremely popular to a point where people think he or she is going to stay popular. So what happens is lower class people or people who are medium status hang around him because they feel that they could get popular from him or her. Now this popular kid thinks he or she has a great group of friends to be with for a very long time with. Wrong. The only reason these kids have been hanging around with him or her for a very long time is so they can be extremely popular. What devastantingly happens is the person who has been hanging around with the popular kid has now became so popular that he or she overthrows the kid that got him all the way to the top.
ReplyDeleteBy: Jake Stahre
I don't think the socially elite veiw them self this way. The definition of popularity is "the quality of being well-liked", there for they must have friends. Even thought these type of people may not like certain people doesn't mean they don't have friends. This may come out odd, but in Mean Girls 2, there where a group of "popular girs" and they all had eachother as friends. Their friendship might be because they all like being mean...a common inrest (not a good intrest but it still was one).
ReplyDelete-Shae M.
In my opinion, I think it depends on what "type" of popular they are. Even people who aren't popular are sometimes incapable of making friendships because they are shy, rude, or both. But the very top of the top popular who probably looks so perfect they might of had plastic surgury probably view themselves as the best of the best and can't be pushed down because they've already pushed everybody down and their self confidence is completly off the charts. I think they are incapable of making true friends but they can make alliances or a "clique" so they stay at the top and they make themselves known as the gods of the school. For me I have never encountered such a being thank goodness I haven't.
ReplyDelete-Katie :-)
The quote above is one of the many ways of how to view and interpret popular kids. Studies show that most of the "famous" school yard leaders are insecure. By reanalyzing the citation, you come to the conclusion that people, who put others down to make themselves happy, are some of the indivduals suffering the common case of insecurity. The social elite clique go through friends like how humans go through clothes; we wear them for one day then get sick of them so they ditch them for something or someone else. Do the cool cats of the school bare of any real friendships? My eighth grade response to this relevant question is yes; people who treat others in such a matter probably did not have a single actual friend since elementary school. Where the only drama was if someone stole your crayon, elementary school taught little children how to develop social skills, build relationships, and where the "popular kids" never existed. During those five years of education, everyone is your friend,and when you have a birthday party, your whole class is guaranteed to be invited. The point of this is everyone has the raw natural talent to engeneer relationships. Some just need to be reminded of it. So the real question is, do they have the capabilty of assembling friendships or will they be insecure jerks with no real friends for the rest of their life?
ReplyDeletemaddie c. period 6
I do think that the socially elite view themselves this way. They probably have a few major friends, but the rest just hang out with them, and sometimes, like the quote syas, the "alliances" get made fun of. The socially elite's lives aren't completely devoid of friendship, because there are some friends that they see as equals, but the rest are seen as lower than them.
ReplyDeleteConnor Ford
The popular crowd
ReplyDeletePeople in school can be related to a neverending roller coaster. The roller coaster of life takes turns and shoots. During 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade everyone was friends with each other. Nobodyy had labels, and everyone was their own person. Then we marched into the middle school. At the begining there is a steady pace, everyone is friends with everyone and nobody has dirt on anybody. But then the roller coaster becomes steaper, meaning that someone has dish about something. As the roller coaster gradualy moves up the gossip becomes louder and more intense. Finally the word is out and the roller coaster plunges into a sea of rumors. Along the way are turns, meaning that new dirt is found, someone did something, or something is going to happen. Then the roller coaster turns back around and begins again. But unfortuantly the roller coaster stops as soon as that last year of school comes to an end. So the coaster never follows you to highschool or college, it stops dead, and a new ride is put up. So the friends that you believe that are your friends might be using you for better advatages in school.
The socially elite believe that their life is endowed by the person they want to be. If that person is mean, then they will attempt to be mean. If the person is aggressive, then they will be aggressive. So nobody is they're own person. To be popular is to believe that you are more than other people. There is always that one person that makes them who they are.
By: Carl S.
I feel that this quote does apply to almost any school; it is just not as prominent. At IMMS there aren’t enough students for major groups to form. This prevents most of the “alliances” that the quote talks about, but in other larger schools this is very different. The “socially elite” students are just a group of kids trying not to be made fun of that go to great lengths, and do things that they would not normally do, to avoid that; otherwise known as bullies. These kids might not realize it at the time, but really they are doing the exact thing that they themselves were trying to avoid from the start, bullying. Some kids will understand what they are doing and stop, but others are so afraid of going back to the humiliation that they had to deal with before that they keep doing it, bullying. Some of the “socially elite” have other friends that they see outside of school so they aren’t made fun of, and they have friends; they are the lucky ones. The rest have lost all of their friends because they made them the laughing stock to get themselves out of the line of fire. All these kids are left with is a spot in the most popular group in school, the bullies.
ReplyDeleteAdam Feldscher
The pyramid of popularity is a towering feat, but remove a brick from the pyramid, the structure will collapse, popularity is no more.
ReplyDelete~Brandon S
@Rachel, I see on what you mean, but how can you back that up?
ReplyDelete-Normando
The ones at the top may be elite, but there is no top without a bottom.
ReplyDeletein other words they may think of being elite but with out the others they are nothing. Why judge, are we in court?
~Brandon S
Friends, what are friends to you? Someone to stick by your side no matter what you or someone says. If they hear a rumor going around the school about them and everyone laughs including your friends, are they your friends? Are they true to you? Popular kids are just like us, but they do have different traits then us. A popular kid can have so many friends if you show that you care. Showing that you care about them and are confident in them can help your attitude toward others. For example in school when your all shy and out of the light were everyone else is, then they don't really want to be friends with someone like that. To the answer to the first question, think of it as a regular person coming into the school. A popular kid is just like you and me, they go to school to learn and to hangout with friends. On the first day of school they are the same as all of us, but they stand out to the crowd, and show them who they really are into the long run. When we have friends there are some you can trust and some you don't know, as long as you trust them then they will show you. Or it could work the other way too. For example if you have a cool friend that you have known for a long time and one day you and her got into a fight. Well, of course she can turn you around and make you the laughing stock by spreading rumors that are probably not true, or telling other student a dark secret and it was funny to her. A friend can come or can go and make your life bad, or a true friend shows deep inside who she is to you. So popular kids are the same as you and me, you can see them differently,but they aren't treated differently. (second answer) Weekend after weekend everyone can hear people talking about sleepovers or hangouts. As I had wrote before I friend shows who they are, and popular kids are like us. They can have friends like us, they can get good or bad grades like us. Someone who shows them to everyone you can have a real relationship. For example if you sleepover someones house for a couple nights, or go to hangout a couple nights, everyone will see that you have a true real relationship with that person. So, remember in your mind that a friend is a friend that can come and can go. But be careful or what you say. As true friends will always stay, god made us the same, but our actions make us different.
ReplyDeleteI think popular kids do laugh at other people, but to make themselves feel better, and they think its funny because they don't know what it feels like to be laughed at. They do have friends, but they stick to themselves. Also, popular kids need their friends so when they're laughing at someone their friend can laugh with them. Otherwise, they just look like the bad guy, and not the funny person they are trying to be.
ReplyDelete-Katie LaBella
I think that there is soctieys like this in the high schools but not are school. We only have 110 kids that can not make up a social groups.I look at the social society of as the food pyramiad of aniamls including us. In the food pyramid we are at the top but in that group of humans i think it is spit up into three other grous. The three groups are the poular(rich),middle(not rich but not poor),and the bottom(poor).
ReplyDeleteOk i got taolly off trake now to the quietions that was asked.I think that there is soctieys like this in the high schools but not are school. We only have 110 kids that can not make up a social groups.I look at the social society of as the food pyramiad of aniamls including us. In the food pyramid we are at the top but in that group of humans i think it is spit up into three other grous. The three groups are the poular(rich),middle(not rich but not poor),and the bottom(poor).Do you think this is how the socially elite view themselves? I think the elite socail class ias a buch of backstabing lies. To sum them up I think They are all fake. Are their lives devoid of any real friendships? I think they do not have real freindship.
---------Johnny Rudolph----------
I don't think that is how "popular" people view themselves. The kids in our school come in many shapes and sizes. Those that people think are popular and cool might be mean to other people. When I think of popularity, I think of bullying. Many people get bullied in our school, whether it be for an accident, or your appearence, or your performance in certain tasks. A lot of those popular people are narcissistic bullies. They only get to the top by bringing others down. Then after they think they brought the person down, they will not even consider the kid an equal! They will do whatever it takes so the person feels miserable. For example, butting in front of the said person in line, or just making unnecessary remarks on the person to get a laugh out of the bully's fellow peers. Even I have been subject to the problems I am talking about. I just don't understand why people have to be so mean to get the admiration of people. People shouldn't need to feel popular. All they have to do is find a group of people they have something in common with, and enjoy the rest of their school year.
ReplyDelete- Alex J.
One comment has no name. The substance of it was good so it was posted. Normando, I am so impressed with your ability to articulate your thoughts.
ReplyDeleteDo you guys think people want to be popular at all costs? Does being popular ever infringe on your beliefs?
Mr. G, two words.Hell no. I'm sorry for the language but I'm fine as I am. If being popular means losing friends and being someone totally different then no. You pick yourself. No one picks you.
ReplyDelete-Normando
I think that popular kids have their core group in which they have real friends. They will have friends that will talk behind their back to guard themselves from being humiliated. Mike Morris
ReplyDeleteI believe that no matter who you are you share your feeling, and trust. Some poeple might tell you that they trust you by just saying your a great friend. If some of you ,meaning kids the in 8th grade, went to Health yesterday, or today, we talked about Signs Of Suiside or S.O.S. We talked about how people can see the signs of Depression, and stuff like that. The teachers explained that when someone just looked sad, and needs to talk, that means that they trusted you enough to drain, and explain what's irritating them. So, I think that popular people have friends, but stay in that little group because they once felt like they didn't belong.
ReplyDeleteTori Rose Ballinger
Real friends are hard to come by because you need to get to know them.The quote about popular kids not having real friends I think isn't true. Popular kids also have friends that they talk to and everyone is the same in my eyes. Everybody in the world I think has a friend that they care about. If a popular kid doesn't have some sort of friendship in their life it's basically being on your own because everyone needs friends in their lives.
ReplyDelete-Danny
I do think that ppl would for sure go at all cost to be poular. Poularitey is a big part on your mood i think. I think if i kenw the person was poular i would diffent have differnt belifies
ReplyDeletejohn rudolph
I think that in our school the more socially elite group, in my mind, have friendships with each other. From my prospective, you really arent't sure which ones are true or just an act.
ReplyDeleteKim LaPorte
The socially elite stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone can pick them out of a crowd in an instant. As they lurk around together, showing off their pride, socially mediocre people sit blended in with society watching them doing nothing. In a sense the socially elite(populars) may not be as "popular" as they think. Selfish actions and regrettable comments made to rest of the student body has built up a large hate towards the populars. There is probably a total of 7 or 8 populars versus the everyone else. Why hasn't anyone stood up to the populars? The populars are emmensly outnumbered and the "losers" just sit invisible taking the cruelty that they do not deserve. Normal people know that when they mess with the populars they will pay for it. Soon enough there will be a ridiculous rumor to turn the one person that stands up for themselves the new laughing stock. A peer may not even have to retaliate to the populars actions and there will still be a rumor spread. Notice how the populars are always "perfect" this is because they spread the rumors to secure themselves from being made fun of. Besides the leader of this elite group, the rest are follwers. They don't argue, they don't question, they just go along to look socially better. This is not a friendship. It is dictatorship. You have one life, one childhood, and you give it all away to be "popular"? I would'nt.
ReplyDeleteChris D
I think that the popular people think of themselves in different ways. Some people are popular for their true personalities, and have many friends that respect that and want to be around them. These people don't try and show that they're popular, they just stick with their friends and enjoy life. This to me is who's truly "popular".
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, there are the kinds of popular people who don't have many friends, but alliances. They want to be envied, so they act accordingly. They surround themselves with people who seem to fit the popular cirteria, and flaunt how great they are. Nobody in their group really likes anyone they hang out with, but they still stick together to sheild themselves. These people have no true friends, and in my opinion, aren't popular at all.
-Emily R. :)
They don't view themselves any different than any of the other kids. They also do have many good friends, like anyone else would.
ReplyDeleteFreddy
I think there are a couple different kinds of popular people some popular people view themselves as the elite group who do sometimes turn on their "friends". They will embarress or make fun of there friends just to save themselves from being possibly humiliated. They may do whatever they have to do to stay at the top of the group. Although there are some popular people who are the nicest people you will ever meet. They are well-liked and honest which is why they are popular. They are so well-liked because instead of being the people who are putting other people down all the time they are the people who are sticking up for others, and standing up for themselves which is why people like them enough to make them popular.
ReplyDelete-Sinead
Sometimes it really does depend. You are usually popular for having a talent that everyone enjoys like if your funny or musically gifted or sports. The other reason, is you do something unlawfull or rebellious and people are liked for such an act. But when this person is revealed as something they're not, the become the bottom of everyones jokes. Basically how you act and how it reflects off people, makes you more or less popular
ReplyDelete+++++JT KENNEDY+++++
What is a Friend? Someone that is always there for you. When you cry because you’re upset someone is by your side. Popular kids are just like us. They go to school to learn, they dress the same way. Your actions can cause your life to change. If your shy and are out of the light were no one can see you, then they wont want to be your friend. Someone would want another person to stick by them through thick and thin. Popular people work their way to the top by stepping on others has going up, but they will never come back down. If their actions are correct and are positive they will have friends that will make sure that they won’t fall, but if you go up and are negative you can always fall. Like a roller coaster at a carnival. As you begin to go up you may have two tricks or turns up your sleeve, but nothing can stop you. But you never know when you’re at the top were it can start to go down toward the earth. Popular people can be nice, shy, or rude. They are responsible for what other people see in them and if it's negative it can be hard to fix it. Some times kids make fun of other kids to enjoy their pain inside. For example one day my sister comes home from high school upset. Calmly she told me to be prepared for next year and what ever kids throw at me. A kid was in her hallway and another bully that looked like a normal kid slammed down her books and pushed her against the locker. Everyone was laughing like crazy and she always hears her doing that everyday. For me I think she does it because she en joy's it. Friends can back you up while enemies won’t do a thing. Popular kids are just like us, nothing is truly different in them compared to us. I believe that they do have friends that are in the middle about them, but I know that there are some that truly know them. A friend is there for you no matter what, and I do believe that the popular kids have friends, but not just alliances Weekend after weekend someone hears another person talking about a sleepover their going to or a hangout that their excited for., what would you call that person? An outlier, (someone that is just there for them) friend, or a real true relationship of a friend, saying a real true relationship of a friend is the best answer, for hanging out with these friends you’re always there. Best friends (real relationship) hearing people laugh in the hall ways, you think they laughed at something funny. People that are just next to you or are laughing with you are showing confidence. Your actions go to your life. Popular kids could have been down, they could have had friends that weren't that great, but they had actions that stood out with every other student. Yes, I do believe that popular people do have real friends of a relationship. If they weren't a good friend then the other people could just push them off the top and watch them fall. For example if this popular kid that everyone knows as been really rude to everyone and is too snotty, then they could just stop being their friend and watch them go to the back of the line. If you go up what ever does it goes back down. Popular kids are able to get to that spot in many reasons by having a friend is the biggest. Everyone can say that their not popular because they don't have that many friends. My definition of popularity is "fun with friends." If you say that you’re not popular I would reply with a yes you are because you have at least one friend and that could be me or anyone else. Popularity isn't a contest you would won’t to try to win, a lot of people would think so, but it's really not. You're not racing against time, or friends, your not even racing at all. DON'T BE A PRESCHOOLER!!! Remember popular people are just like us. You are popular in your own way; with one friend it can show a difference. You may see a person different then you, but inside they are the same. God created us the same but your actions can change you; negative or positive you can change and complete you, for who you are.
ReplyDelete~Leah
Mrs. Campeau-
ReplyDeleteI remember you saying that if we had an idea that we could write about, to post it, and to see if you like it. Well, in my Sifi book, The Unit by Ninni Holmqvist, the main character, Dorrit Weger, was "Almost Loved" by her 1st love. At the end of the paragraph, after Dorrit was explaining everything, she said "To be almost loved, is as close as you can get to being loved, without actually being loved." For some reason this quote sticks out at me. I have no idea why, but it means alot. It's difficult to explain, and I don't know how, if you let the 8th graders blog about it, the guys will respond. It would be very interesting to hear both, the girl's and the guy's responce. I don't care if you chose to use it or not, but, like I said, it would be interesting. Thanks!!
Tori Rose Ballinger
I don't think the more popular people take this comment into consideration. I think social elite view themselves as pretty, loved people, even when they are not so loved. Their lives can be filled with friendships, or cold and empty without them. It all depends on the attitude and respectfulness of the person.
ReplyDeleteLauren Tocci
first, is it really fair to put the title of "fake" just because someone is popular? With that being said, i think that the real popular people are truly liked. Not by how they look,but how they act twards others. Now the popular people who get that rank of top of the class by bulling and putting people down to go up social ranks, I'd like to see them where they are in 15 years. So maybe being popular is because you are kind to others or are a good friend, for the ones who get there by having fake friends I feel sorry for you, and i pray for you to have the strength to show your true self. It is than when you will find your true friends.
ReplyDeleteVaughn
Agreed, Normy yours was two thumbs up
ReplyDeleteAnd its sorta like if your not popular, than your bullied, so maybe like its you have to be popular, does that make seance? anybody agree?
Vaughn
I believe that popular people have both their real friends and their followers. They do have real friends and those friends are probably also popular. The followers believe that to be happy, they need to throw out who they really are, and adopt a new image. You should never live your life for others.
ReplyDeleteCurtis Bechtel
This quote I just read applies in my life everyday. To get to the top you have to break a few hearts. Its hard to see the less popular kids get picked on, but the one thing the less popular kids have that popular kids don't is friends. When you're popular you can turn from hero to zero in one day,and all those kids you've stepped on to get popular. Won't be there to pick you up. Not even you're popular "friends" will be there for you. Here's my theory if you have friends that are always there to pick you back up. Then you're more popular then you can even imagine because nothings better than friendship.
ReplyDelete-Ian Danger Rattigan
Yeah, Vaughn, it does seem that way,I agree. Society has changed so much, people post stuff on the internet, and don't think on what they put. I'm cautious on what I say in texts, chats, and even in this blog. Everything is logged, Universities see these blogs. I hope they can see what kind of people we are, by reading on what we posted. Some people don't understand that. Popularity is what it is. You pick the ride you want to go on. Your choice on what YOU, want to do.
ReplyDelete-Normando
In my opinion I think that there are two different kinds of popular people. There are the ones that are using others to shield away the true them and then there are the popular people that are actually liked due to their kindness and caring for others. Most of the "higher ranked" people are looked upon as role models to others. I'm not saying that every popular person is perfect either but when they are hiding who they really are that I think is just wrong. Why would someone do that to themselves? I guess it makes them feel better about themselves. Over all I really dislike this quote because it is basically saying that every popular human being is a jerk and hiding the true them by using others. Yes that's true for some of them but not all. Some of those popular people are my friends, my best friends actually and I know that they are not using me to hide themselves from others.
ReplyDelete- Sam Dion
I just read almost every post, on this blog. I like the fact how some individuals react, how they have never done anything of what this topic is apart. I'll step up right now and say, I've done it before. Come on everyone, don't write on here and say you've never laughed at a kid who has been tormented. It bothers me, really much, how students are replying to this blog and reacting like they've never laughed at someone or done it to somebody. I'm not saying everyone here has done this, but more of the majority has. If you reply to this and say no you've never done this, or you have. You have my respect. I have bundles of scenes from whats happened to me, and people have laughed, you think I'm afraid to post it on here? Go right ahead and post what you want. Humiliation hurts everyone. Embarrassment, all these big words have a meaning. I want you all to think about this. Honestly I'd be surprise if this comment were to be posted, and not blocked. For those who read this, be truthful, be who you really are.
ReplyDelete-Normando
In my eyes, the popular, or socialy elite, are oblivious to the negitive ways people view them. They only believe or at least want to believe the complements that people tell them for who knows what reason. Maybe for the reciver of those comments to like them. Some cases, the cool cats, the bee's knee's, whatever you may call those popular, are capable to have a valid and true friendship but the person choses against it. I personaly am against the stereotypical adjetives people place on the invisible social pyramid that delvopes in schools.
ReplyDelete-Julia g
The "socially elite" don't alway(*cough* mostly never *cough*) view themselves as being popular to begin with. I can still remember asking my all around perfect cousin who was popular at her school. She responded by saying "There aren't any popular people! Everyone is friends with everyone!" There you have it. I later discovered from a source (that shall remain anonymous) that she is indeed very popular and in fact can be very mean. I believe that after a lifetime of being the way they are this mindset becomes their way of life. Kinda sad, but kinda true. By definition an alliance is an agreement or friendship between two or more parties, made in order to advance common goals. This whole social network is kind of like a war: you have you alliances and your enemies, battles and destructive consequences. Allies take advantage of each other for however long the war (friendship) lasts. Do countries really care what happens to another country after an alliance is broken? Unfortunately no. People can be same way. We don't battle with weapons but with words which can be just as painful.
ReplyDelete-Kristen L.-
I think there are two types of socialy elite people. Their are the people that are true about themselves and say what they think when they think it. Then their are the people that hide behind the people that are true to them selves. The people that hide dont show their true self they show the feelings, and personalities that everybody else wants to see. Therefore some people are actually the socaily elite and some really aren't. They are just fooling you with there lies and hiding.
ReplyDeleteDillon Hathaway
Normando-
ReplyDeleteI can say that I have laughed at people like that, but sometimes it's not because it's funny. It's really because WE feel peer preshered into following the crowd. Sometimes it's akward not to laugh; I think this is most of us in Indian Mills. (PLEASE DON"T TAKE THAT THE WRONG WAY...I AM TRUELY FOND OF ALL OF YOU) We laugh because we are scared of being laughed at ourselves. People need to stand up to kids being laughed at. I try to stand up to people, and help the weak, but most of the time the bully makes a smart come back to me. I don't know...it makes sence to me, but if you find it confusing I completely understand! So, do you understand?
Tori Rose Ballinger
There are a few kinds of people that think they are the cream of the crop. Some people are popular because they are friendly and always nice to every one. On the other hand Some people gain their "popularity" by being punks, and mean to others that are not on "the same social class. There are many popular people that are caring and friendly, but their are many that are not.
ReplyDeleteSean Kennedy
Normando-
ReplyDeleteP.S. I'm so sorry you were bullied! I don't know if I did anything, and I don't know who did it, but if I did, I want to apologize. I would also like to apologize for anyone who did bully you. True it's not from the bully themselves, but it's still an apology. I also know how you feel...in fourth grade I moved here, and I came from a school that was way behind, so I wasn't the smartest kid, but I was a kid trying to make friends, I was like everyone else. It kinda worked, but I don't know...people just thought I was weird. I brought it up one time with someone, and I said that I was weird in forth grade, and they replied with a I'm sorry, but you were weird. I know they said sorry, but it still gets to you. But I also have to admit I was a kid who never knew about the real world; I thought that ALL people were perfect, and nice, but when I got to middle school...well...I opened my eyes a little wider. Now I know my place.
THIS IS FOR ANYONE WHO WAS BULLIED OR IS BULLIED-YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE!!
Tori Rose Ballinger
I believe that the socially elite group means different things to each individual. To me there are diverse meanings to being cool. Some are special, unique, and have many friends; another type are the fakers, they are the students that show only part of themselves. Several kids are scared that their true selves are lame so they hide behind an ugly, plastic mask. Phonies think they have really friends until those "buddies" stab them in the back. Once students become lonely they find their true friends who help them be free. Everyone needs to be one of a kind with best friends who keeps them on the path to success.
ReplyDelete~Kristen D~
Have you ever put a label on a group of people? Most students in a school, whether it is a public, or private school know there is always at least one group of people who have the label of being the socially elite. Even though those people are popular they may not know it. They just think that their life is normal and how it should be. The rest of the school society would say that the popular kids have everything from their clothes to their homes, and would do anything to be in their shoes. Do you think that the socially elite were ever just like the rest of the school society and were friends with everyone? Throughout the years of school the popular kids were given the label “popular”. When everyone, including the socially elite, were in elementary school all the kids were friends with each other. While maneuvering through the stages of school, grades get split up into cliques and each one have a tight group of friends. Even though the cliques decide which clique is the socially elite, all the people in each one have each other and always be close knit friends. Yet people would give or do anything to be popular; but would that make them popular? Humans only have one life, which they make the final decision what to do with it. They could succeed in their journey or they could ruin their life forever. Would you go through the hassle to become popular, but not know what would be the outcome?
ReplyDelete-Nicole F.
I belive that the tops of the social class feel as if every one loves them, but in reality no one but there few friends might actually have. but then that are others who are nice and actually make real friends. But every one should be themselves instead of pretending to be someone else.
ReplyDeleteby joe mcknight
ReplyDeleteFirst off some people dont care if they are known for good things or just infamous. They'll do anything just to get that adrenaline rush of being popular. And second, usually popularity starts out with having one really good friend and then the ripple affect occurs.
ReplyDelete~Liz Markel(:
The sociallt elite group has alliances for the most part. I am not part of the socially elite group in 8th grade, but I'm sure anyone who is has a different perspective on things. In class I try not to answer questions because if I am not 100% sure and I get it wrong I feel like everyone would be secretly laughing in their heads. I know it isn't true for most people and I know myself it is hard to get along with people who aggrivate you. For this reason I get very aggrivated sometimes. Which leads to pushing my true friends away. I don't understand why people would put themselves though such idiotic circumstances.
ReplyDelete~~Amanda Emily Miller~~
P.S. I want to thank Kyra for being there for me through thick and thin helping me through the toughest of times wether it be family or friends problems. <3
In my opinion, the popular people may not reconize themselves as the "socially elite". (execpt in those exagerated movies of course)If there was to be a survey of who was the most popular person, you'd be getting a bunch of different answers. So in that sense, the kind of nonexsistent socially elite don't have obvios alliances. Its more of a group of friends who are well liked by alot of people. What makes them friends is most often based on their personality, not because they fear that the other will laugh at them and what not. Granted, I suppose extreme cases of vicious people may have that sort of relationship, but from my experience, generally everyone respects each other and have wonderful friendships. =]
ReplyDelete*Amy Burke*
people that are popular think there loved by everyone but people who are not popular think they're all jerks. people that are unpopular are usually the people that have friends because they don't use each other but some popular people are just using each other to get further in the school year and to find out secrets about them to use when they get in a fight one day, then spread rumors
ReplyDeleteby:Travis Ward
I must admit this kind of doesn't relate to the quote, but for all of the students that say they have been bullied, I completly understand where you are coming from. For the majority of my life (including pre-school) I have either been beaten up or ignored by my peers and sometimes even my parents because they were too caught up in their "work" in the air force. Even once someone threw a pretty big piece of solid ice at me just because they didn't accept me for me. they were closing in on me and criticizing me for not being like the rest of the cookie cutter kids. I became the kid who never talked, I didn't trust anyone. So I completly understand where you guys are coming from, my sincere apologies to you guys that had to experience that.
ReplyDelete-Katie M.
Also I feel that in the main groups they are sundivided too. Like in my "group" I am friends with many people, but that doesn't mean I am popular I'm just popular in my own way.
ReplyDelete~~Amanda Emily Miller~~
Being popular is a topic that is stressed to the limit. We all have our days where we look up to that character, agree with that character(even when what they say is totally wrong.)
ReplyDeleteBut when we look beyond that point we find what the true colors really are. Are we really looking up to the right person? Are we doing what is right to fit in? Questions like that only surf quickly through our minds, but words of wisdom you hear almost everyday, is think before you act.
Me being a guy who is relatively outgoing, nice to everyone, and respects others for what they have, is a true virtue. I honestly am blessed with these characteristics, but with these things come responsibility to look out for others, and stick up for the person who is being picked on.
Earlier in my life when I had no friends way back in the kindergarden, and 1st grade I was bullied. Though it seems like a while ago, I am permanately damaged for life. Examples of what I went through, were clothes werent good enough, hair wasnt good enough, even the shoes on my feet werent good enough. So I know how it feels to be the victim of a bullying case. But after those intellectual two years i met these two great kids Ian and Liam in second grade. To be honest, it was an absolute alliance, I would walk in hi-5 them than jack a pencil out of there desk when they turned around. But when third grade struck the next year, I went to Liams house for the first time. Thats when my life took a turn for the good. I met Vaughn and Kevin. Than in 4th grade i felt superior! I finally had friends now, 4 awesome friends that i could call up and hang out with! But now my struggle, was keeping them. I would show off to keep them, bully to keep them, anything to impress these kids I did so i didnt lose them. But than i realized after 2 years of being this so called "popular guy," I was flushing my freinds away. So I changed my ways and became this guy I am today, what i think, a good kid. Now my new struggle in this world instead of impressing to be popular, I set an example to be popular.
-Justin Williams/Period 6
Mrs. Campeau,
ReplyDeleteI posted my response yesterday, and I was looking through all of the comments, and I didn't see mine. I know I posted it. I don' know what happened.
Julia F
period 6
I personally feel that it depends on the type of popular kid. Some groups do have real friendships so i don't think their devoid of them.I mean some types of popular kids can be complete jerks but then others may be like the nicest people you meet. This is how I view them though. There just regular everyday people. This is how I view them.
ReplyDelete-Brittany N
I think that popular kids do have alliances because it's always better to have every one with you then against you, but they also do have friends. An depending on the kid it'll always be different on how they use the power of their popularity. They could either A: Be a jerk and torment others or B: Actually try to be friends with everyone. I honestly think it's their choice if they choose to hurt a lot of people that could even be their friends/alliances. Or they can probably save some one from falling into depression or something that could really harm them due to isolation. Also in life you are either the shield or the person behind it. To those who are hiding be careful not to burn your shield because you don't know how much that person could have changed your life.
ReplyDelete-Gianna Petagno
i think that popular people will say that they are not the type of people to have alliances or put people down but they do. Although everyone says they do not put people down or have alliances, they do.Any fine structure would crumble like a cookie if the bottom was not there. SO... i think that the group is split right down the middle or probably 75,25. 75% might be the ones of alliances and completely NO real friends, and the other 25% have actual friends and honesty instead of people in the same "clique" turn on each other and stab them in the back, and walk away without any feelings for them at all.I feel that the bottom half of the structure has a whole lot less alliances or cliques where not really anybody at all stabs anyone at all, we are just one big happy family.
ReplyDelete~Shannon~Petagno~
to me being popular is liking yourself and others around you. Yes it is being well-liked by most people, but think about yourself and how you feel around everyone. Instead of trying to by your way into friendship it won't be real and we all know it. The first step to a true friendship is by just saying hi. I think people who are over confident and think to highly on themselves forget what it is to have a friend who cares about your feelings and then there is that one true friend in the mix of populars that keeps you on your feet while your on that balance board. So i think they have some friends in the sea of populars but not many.
ReplyDelete~Brooke Petagno :)
I am very pleased at the honesty, sincerity, and overall goodness I am hearing in your blog responses. You all are an inspiration to me. Emotion is overwhelming me on how supportive you are to one another. Some of you are sharing such personal feelings; it's wonderful to see!!
ReplyDeleteMrs. Campeau
Off topic; however, still need soda for dance tomorrow. Please bring a bottle in if possible.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
Mrs. Campeau
Do you ALL believe there is a social hierarchy in the school?
ReplyDeleteTori,
ReplyDeleteI do agree with you on being peer pressured to laugh at someone. During six period, and you probably know what I'm talking about, I always sit through that whole period tapping my pencil so hard trying not to do something I might regret. I seem like I'm always the one not laugh ,and you said yourself that it's not really funny either. I understand why you do laugh ,but maybe we don't have to laugh together. Remember the saying "strength in numbers"? We could do that. I also want to thank you for being one of my best friends. I know we had some ups and downs lately, but I think we have overcome them now. I know you one person that I could talk to about anything. I really do thank you! :)
Kim LaPorte
I do Mr. G
ReplyDeleteJudtin Williams
Yes.. look at where everyone sits at lunch, the people they are around. If you look closely, you'll see that our school does. Each grade has this.
ReplyDelete-Normando
ps. sorry i didnt write that much few days, sick.
Oh yeah, it seems that everyone is one of these click groups which is fine but sometimes it can lead to problems and clashes between groups.
ReplyDeleteNathan B.
I dont think that there are any popular alliances. Its just different groups of friends, and there really isnt any group that thinks they are better than anyone else. being popular is not about being at the top of everyone else, but to be popular in your own way. And if you are trying to be popular, you will find yourself making more enemies than friends.
ReplyDelete-Dalton Giberson
I belive that the "popular" kids THINK they have friends, but then their "friend" doesn't want to get made for of, so they decide to make fun, of the other "friend." This causes confusion to everyone, because they aren't sure if they have any friends, and all they want to do is get back at the person who made fun of them. This happens all the time, and I feel that this is the way they see eachother, and that everyone else can' or shouldn't belong. Because of this situation, I think that they really don't have friendships, they just be friends witrh someone when they need something; like a ride to the game, or from practice. Unfortunatly, this is how many of our on lives are, and most people don't even know it.
ReplyDeleteJulia F(:
Mrs. Campeau,
ReplyDeleteI posted my comment on the 25th but Amanda and I went through all of them and it's not there...why?
Kyra C.
I think that popular kids do make alliances. It makes them feel safe and in control of their social status. They feel that they are very vonurable so they need to get as much positive attention as possible so they can be "happy" with their lives. Most kids also try to make fun of others because they want to look good in front of their friends, even if they do or don't meen the "seemingly harmless joke"
ReplyDelete-Wes B
The social elites are actually "lower class" students who anchor others down into the ocean floor so (for example) I drown in pain and agony.
ReplyDeleteJack Levy
PS This also happens to everyone every day